Come to Yourself

Fact Not Fiction: Astrology: Astrology and Religion in the Age of Aquarius

April 08, 2021 Season 1 Episode 3
Come to Yourself
Fact Not Fiction: Astrology: Astrology and Religion in the Age of Aquarius
Show Notes Transcript

Raye Mathis and Gretchen O'Neal discuss how the relationship between religion and astrology may change in the Age of Aquarius
 
Raye Mathis (she/her) is a noted astrologer, a professor of multiple disciplines at Atlantic University, and has a B.A. in Mathematics (magna cum laude) from Furman University, as well as her M.S.W. in Clinical Social Work from Norfolk State University

Raye teaches 4-week online astrology groups on learning how to work with your own chart. In addition, she has a 40-year ongoing astrology practice giving private astrological consultations and publishes a quarterly newsletter entitled "The Capricorn Times".   She can be contacted at rayemathis22@gmail.com

Gretchen O'Neal is a spiritual accountability and empowerment coach.  She owns and operates www.cometoyourself.com.  Come To Yourself provides unbiased, easily accessible information from the top scholars in the fields of transpersonal psychology and consciousness studies, coupled with personal insights from successful artists, musicians, and business professionals, to anyone looking to start their spiritual journey to discover and serve their soul's mission in life 

Gretchen:

Talked a little bit, uh, at the beginning about how your, um, interest in practice of astrology is kind of something that's not talked about in your family because of the religious upbringing that you had. Uh, do you feel that that is something that is still highly prevalent? This, this, this, um, I hate to say combative, but that's what it feels like, like this combative nature between, uh, traditional religious practices versus, uh, something like astrology, which definitely has more of a spiritual component, you know, a spiritual connective practice to it. Do you still feel that there's this, you know, combative nature between the two?

Raye:

Oh, well, absolutely. But I think it's changing. I think, well, I won't say that religion per se is changing, but people who practice religion are changing and, uh, what, uh, astrologically what's happening now is it we're moving between the Piscean age and the Aquarian age. And this happens an age lasts about 2200 years. So the Piscean age started about the time of the birth of Jesus. It's kind of connected to the birth of Jesus. And, um, it's interesting, Carl Young wrote a book. He wrote a lot, but one of his collected works is I call eye on. And, um, it's essentially about the changing of the ages it's filled with astrology. Um, and he looked back at what was going on when the age has changed. You know, he, he looked back at the Tarrian age, um, and all back as far as he could go. And we realized that each age has its own image of God. And in the Taurian age, the image of God was the bull, and this is what they worshiped. Apess the bull. Um, we're in the Piscean age. And Pisces is a very, um, uh, Pisces are very ideally the sign itself. Now I'm not describing any one individual, but the sign itself is very idealistic. Uh, they are looking for perfection in life. And so in the Piscean age, we had to have a God who was perfect and, uh, of course, Yong, uh, and, and all of his, um, wisdom realized that that was going to mean that everything that was imperfect was going to happen to the shadow. Um, and so he S he was predicting, or as he died in 1961, but he predicted that as we came to the changing of the age, that everything that had dropped into the shadow was going to come up, uh, and that we were going to have to deal with it. And so,

Gretchen:

And by deal with it, it's almost referring to reconcile, like people were going to have to reconcile that the things that were in the dark have some value in. Yeah,

Raye:

Exactly, exactly. Hopefully that's what they're going to do and not push it back down again. Um, but I think that's where we are now. Um, I really believe that down the road we'll look back in 2020 and the pandemic will be the tipping point because it has, it has caused so many structures to crumble or to really show their vulnerability. And there's going to have to be, uh, some major rebuilding, uh, rethinking, you know, whatever. And as you know, Aquarius has to do with a new age technology, uh, new age thought it rules Aquarius rules, astrology rules, all that we're talking about this morning and what you're trying to do, uh, with your website. Um, but it also rules the technology, which is of course exploding. And I'm just saying, just think how few years we've had, uh, cell phones, you know, uh, it's, it's just amazing. And, um, so, so that's kind of, I think where we are, and it's, it's a very astrological moment, uh, to be moving. And I, my hope is that, uh, Aquarius is very intellectual, technical, technological. We already have so much of that. Um, it's hard to think about what is going to be our God in the next, uh, time. And I hope it's not the robot we're kind of headed in that direction. I'm hoping that we can save, uh, we can carry over the good parts of the pie CNH, which is love, compassion, uh, hell, hoping our filler. Um, I'm hoping that that will carry over from the old quote, the old religion.

Gretchen:

Yeah. Uh, for me, what, what I personally am hoping carries over is, uh, and falls away at the same time is I do believe that in the Piscean age, there, there was this, uh, move or called to be more connected to God, you know, to a higher power. My, the issue that I had with it, which is exactly what you talked about, which is this need for perfection is referring to God as a one, true God, you know, which then negated other exactly. So I'm hoping that we still strive to keep that connection to a higher power, but we no longer feel the need to say that there's a one true

Raye:

God. Yeah. Yeah. If we could move away from the image of the old man in the sky and realize that the word God is just a word that we use for the unknown for all that we do not know. That's God. Um, and people have a different name. You can put any name, you want to own it, but it's, uh, you know, it's, it's, uh, it's, it's an interesting time to live. And I feel like that all of us who are here, uh, are here for a purpose. We chose to be here at this time. Uh, and we did that because, um, we have something, our little piece of the puzzle. It it's, it's a little bit like our, our cultural mythology, which is our religion, um, has shattered and we need, we're going to have to put a new and back together. And so everybody, I think, has their own unique piece of the puzzle that nobody else can no one else has. And, uh, this is, uh, I think to me, this is the power of astrology. This is your unique piece of the puzzle that nobody else has this, except you.

Gretchen:

For me, I think one of the most valuable, uh, reasons to not only, you know, uh, practices study astrology, but to become informed about it. And as you said, use it as a tool is I really feel that it provides people with this concept that you have value. You know, you have purpose, just foundationally. You have purpose, you have value, you are needed, you are connected

Raye:

And no one can do. Yeah,

Gretchen:

Exactly. Your individuality is the asset that you are bringing here. Yeah.